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MD. SCHOOL BUSES TO SNAP PHOTOS OF VEHICLES THAT DON’T STOP

THEBLAZE-TECHNOLOGY -- When school buses stop, put out their retractable stop sign and flash red, blinking lights, it’s the law for drivers in vehicles both behind the bus and on the other side of the road to stop as well. If they don’t, buses in a Maryland county will soon tattle on them with photographic evidence.

WJZ (via CBS Local) reports the buses rolling through Frederick County this school year are the first in the state’s CrossSafe program, which hopes 40 buses will have the cameras by the end of the year. The onus for the cameras stemmed from a 2007 statewide study that found 7,000 cars passed the stopped buses illegally in one day.

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Submitted Aug 19, 2012 By: NOTSOGRN

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Lilly02 Champion Author Rockford Posts:1,648 Points:521,915 Joined:Oct 2011	Message Posted: Aug 29, 2012 11:41:24 AM Ignore Lilly02 Report Abuse I see people breaking the law all the time here in NY state.
rumbleseat Champion Author Winnipeg Posts:22,910 Points:3,528,265 Joined:Oct 2002	Message Posted: Aug 29, 2012 8:05:28 AM Ignore rumbleseat Report Abuse Heaven forbid a driver be inconvenienced by a few school bus stops. I have been driving since 1965. Somehow I manage to survive, despite having had school bus stops nearby since I moved here in 1977. 4 stops between my home and the main road, on one side, 3 on the other side, at least 6 routes using those stops, and yet, when I was working, I was rarely delayed by more than a few minutes.
honda0105 Champion Author Tallahassee Posts:18,590 Points:1,606,595 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Aug 24, 2012 6:05:49 AM Ignore honda0105 Report Abuse rumble: not everyone has snow and ice. And in some areas there is no option to drive a different route (unless you can afford to add another 60 or 70 miles one way to the commute). What I see is droves of kids from areas that are interconnected waiting every 500 yards (or 450 m). Those could easily be combined into one spot - and the parents are there anyways. Most of those could handle a good bit of walking themselves.
rumbleseat Champion Author Winnipeg Posts:22,910 Points:3,528,265 Joined:Oct 2002	Message Posted: Aug 23, 2012 7:25:22 AM Ignore rumbleseat Report Abuse Do some people not realize the idea of MORE stops in rural areas has nothing to do with less exercise, and everything to do with safety. In the winter, when it is dark out in the morning, how far do you really want children to walk? Have you never heard of predators cruising looking for exposed children to pick up? Heck, we had one here right on the main road try to pick up a 12 year old girl not long ago. If you don't want to be inconvenienced by school buses, leave before the buses come, or after they are gone from your area, or drive a different route.
honda0105 Champion Author Tallahassee Posts:18,590 Points:1,606,595 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Aug 23, 2012 5:55:17 AM Ignore honda0105 Report Abuse defiance: I agree. Make the kids go to one, more central spot. Esp. in rural areas where there are two lanes and the bus stops so quickly that it's impossible to pass for miles. Make the stops either more out of the way of the driving lanes, or create more central stops that picks up kids from a 1/2 or so mile radius. Exercise isn't a dirty word.
rumbleseat Champion Author Winnipeg Posts:22,910 Points:3,528,265 Joined:Oct 2002	Message Posted: Aug 22, 2012 9:28:32 AM Ignore rumbleseat Report Abuse Chris46 asks: "What about when school buses speed? Or run a red light? huh? what then??" What the heck does any of that have to do with drivers who are too stupid to stop for the safety of children getting on or off a school bus?
honda0105 Champion Author Tallahassee Posts:18,590 Points:1,606,595 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Aug 22, 2012 6:01:00 AM Ignore honda0105 Report Abuse given how many ppl I see passing school buses, it would be good. But then, some bus drivers turn their lights on 100 feet before the stop and hit the red lights before they even come to a full halt and expect drivers to be able to stop for them on a 55 mph road.
sydb7 Champion Author Atlanta Posts:3,542 Points:1,916,730 Joined:Mar 2003	Message Posted: Aug 20, 2012 1:31:05 PM Ignore sydb7 Report Abuse bad drivers are putting our children at risk!
sparky808 Champion Author Honolulu Posts:2,986 Points:595,785 Joined:Sep 2011	Message Posted: Aug 20, 2012 1:21:08 PM Ignore sparky808 Report Abuse Thank you for posting.
polarbear2 Champion Author Maine Posts:12,118 Points:2,752,160 Joined:May 2004	Message Posted: Aug 20, 2012 11:39:26 AM Ignore polarbear2 Report Abuse Christiana1313 I'd like to suggest that your driver was at fault stopping in the such a way that a vehicle could pass on the exiting side of the bus. When I drove the rule was "stop at the side of the road so nothing can pass on the exiting side".
SycamoreISU Champion Author Indiana Posts:1,040 Points:258,185 Joined:Jan 2012	Message Posted: Aug 20, 2012 10:09:29 AM Ignore SycamoreISU Report Abuse My concern is whether a driver has any recourse if the camera malfunctions and takes pictures while the bus is in motion.
tomok Champion Author Portland Posts:32,936 Points:2,342,585 Joined:Aug 2006	Message Posted: Aug 20, 2012 5:27:08 AM Ignore tomok Report Abuse Photos and Video of vehicles that do not stop for school buses, of buses that speed and of cops that speed and do illegal turns. The money fined for illegal vehicle operation can help fund schools and related operations. Keep the kids safe when getting on and off da' bus! Now if they can get the buses to make stops MORE than every two blocks and make those kids walk more and get the needed exercise. When crossing the street look both ways before proceeding, don't walk out without looking! There are too many near misses and some hits when people don't look before crossing a street! Whatever the size or shape of the vehicle, Produce and ‘Drive’ vehicles with high MPG, are very safe, reliable, have a ‘reasonable’ cost and a good ‘value’ for the money. Consider using other forms of less expensive transportation to lower your cost. The price of fuel at the pump is too high! 12/22/2012!
PaylessKY Champion Author Kentucky Posts:8,705 Points:1,578,525 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Aug 20, 2012 12:20:04 AM Ignore PaylessKY Report Abuse When a school bus is loading or unloading children, just stop. The safety of children is priority one.
LostInNY Champion Author New York Posts:1,700 Points:644,895 Joined:Apr 2011	Message Posted: Aug 20, 2012 12:19:54 AM Ignore LostInNY Report Abuse Good idea, keep the kids safe!
VetteFan Champion Author Indiana Posts:9,724 Points:2,025,555 Joined:Aug 2005	Message Posted: Aug 20, 2012 12:15:50 AM Ignore VetteFan Report Abuse To some that may sound like a bad thing, but to me I see it as a deterent to poor judgment.
jkpsr Champion Author New Jersey Posts:4,069 Points:1,099,855 Joined:Jun 2005	Message Posted: Aug 20, 2012 12:12:48 AM Ignore jkpsr Report Abuse This is an excellent idea. The fines are substantial!
SteelPenny Champion Author Dallas Posts:30,922 Points:2,604,565 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Aug 20, 2012 12:11:22 AM Ignore SteelPenny Report Abuse crick crick ** -- big brother is watching you and you and you.
stratlinetime Champion Author Kalamazoo Posts:2,266 Points:560,910 Joined:Feb 2011	Message Posted: Aug 20, 2012 12:11:19 AM Ignore stratlinetime Report Abuse Good
defiancegasman Champion Author Ohio Posts:7,080 Points:1,323,260 Joined:May 2006	Message Posted: Aug 20, 2012 12:09:52 AM Ignore defiancegasman Report Abuse Hard to stop when the bus is still moving in the other direction!! Even though it sound good, the real problem is the bus that stops at every house to pick up/drop off 1 kid at a time and spends 4-5 minutes at each stop and then turns the lights on as they are rolling to a stop so there is no way to pass the bus. They need to have a SCHOOL BUS STOP every 1/2 mile or so instead of at each house.
firedudette Champion Author St. Louis Posts:11,887 Points:2,114,375 Joined:Jul 2005	Message Posted: Aug 20, 2012 12:08:32 AM Ignore firedudette Report Abuse ok
frostyWV Champion Author West Virginia Posts:2,339 Points:519,235 Joined:May 2011	Message Posted: Aug 20, 2012 12:08:13 AM Ignore frostyWV Report Abuse good
souly Champion Author Montreal Posts:1,750 Points:429,445 Joined:Jun 2010	Message Posted: Aug 20, 2012 12:07:48 AM Ignore souly Report Abuse thanks for the post
cheapertvs Champion Author Richmond Posts:10,269 Points:2,738,795 Joined:Jan 2004	Message Posted: Aug 20, 2012 12:06:08 AM Ignore cheapertvs Report Abuse Yep: school busses will squeal on you.
Focus2 Champion Author Illinois Posts:7,889 Points:1,918,255 Joined:Mar 2006	Message Posted: Aug 20, 2012 12:06:01 AM Ignore Focus2 Report Abuse Good!
joel27nc Champion Author Raleigh Posts:10,522 Points:1,855,445 Joined:Mar 2008	Message Posted: Aug 20, 2012 12:05:40 AM Ignore joel27nc Report Abuse Great
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pastorpaulcg Champion Author Virginia Posts:3,615 Points:775,785 Joined:Dec 2010	Message Posted: Aug 20, 2012 12:04:30 AM Ignore pastorpaulcg Report Abuse Big Brother
regout Champion Author Quebec Posts:2,940 Points:829,780 Joined:May 2010	Message Posted: Aug 20, 2012 12:03:46 AM Ignore regout Report Abuse Very good.
jem069 Champion Author Detroit Posts:2,523 Points:684,155 Joined:Jan 2011	Message Posted: Aug 20, 2012 12:03:26 AM Ignore jem069 Report Abuse Ok
ManOfLeisureII Champion Author Philadelphia Posts:1,859 Points:451,975 Joined:Jan 2012	Message Posted: Aug 20, 2012 12:02:28 AM Ignore ManOfLeisureII Report Abuse More money wasted.
rahcat Champion Author Grand Rapids Posts:2,453 Points:660,025 Joined:Jan 2010	Message Posted: Aug 20, 2012 12:02:25 AM Ignore rahcat Report Abuse Good idea
pgerassi Champion Author Milwaukee Posts:10,882 Points:2,129,500 Joined:Apr 2007	Message Posted: Aug 20, 2012 12:01:37 AM Ignore pgerassi Report Abuse It has to pass parent/school board scrutiny so that kids aren't caught in the photos.
GRUMPY55 Champion Author California Posts:1,619 Points:421,450 Joined:Oct 2011	Message Posted: Aug 20, 2012 12:01:19 AM Ignore GRUMPY55 Report Abuse Good
mgune9 All-Star Author Dallas Posts:914 Points:200,395 Joined:Feb 2012	Message Posted: Aug 19, 2012 11:57:11 PM Ignore mgune9 Report Abuse maybe it will work
jackster111 Champion Author North Carolina Posts:3,303 Points:422,635 Joined:Feb 2012	Message Posted: Aug 19, 2012 11:55:24 PM Ignore jackster111 Report Abuse If it will make a stop to people that do that then good and if not then don't worry about continuing it
jrsva Champion Author Virginia Posts:9,835 Points:1,610,075 Joined:Jan 2006	Message Posted: Aug 19, 2012 11:53:00 PM Ignore jrsva Report Abuse In many years of driving I have never seen anyone pass a stopped school bus with flashing lights. Perhaps it’s a problem in some areas.
beachmanglen All-Star Author Tampa Posts:674 Points:493,775 Joined:Aug 2011	Message Posted: Aug 19, 2012 11:51:41 PM Ignore beachmanglen Report Abuse Change the school bus routes to pick up kids like city buses, therefore no need for cameras.
Beaveronparade Champion Author Hartford Posts:2,096 Points:632,245 Joined:Mar 2011	Message Posted: Aug 19, 2012 11:48:14 PM Ignore Beaveronparade Report Abuse I think all states should do this! It's SO dangerous when people don't stop. They should get a HUGE ticket & a few days in jail!
joeschmo12 Champion Author New York Posts:1,001 Points:302,465 Joined:Mar 2012	Message Posted: Aug 19, 2012 11:47:04 PM Ignore joeschmo12 Report Abuse there should be cameras at every traffic light then this world would be accident free
FuelOilOH Champion Author Cleveland Posts:2,837 Points:1,180,220 Joined:Oct 2007	Message Posted: Aug 19, 2012 11:46:06 PM Ignore FuelOilOH Report Abuse Let's hope the bus driver is being reasonable about their usage of the red lights and stop sign. I'm all for keeping kids safe but it takes cooperation by all parties involved to make this work and that includes the kids.
oldiesman Champion Author New York Posts:6,417 Points:2,192,010 Joined:May 2006	Message Posted: Aug 19, 2012 11:42:59 PM Ignore oldiesman Report Abuse People don't care fines are a joke, take away there cars and a couple of days in jail should help!
bonzoonfmb Champion Author Florida Posts:1,767 Points:641,660 Joined:Feb 2010	Message Posted: Aug 19, 2012 11:42:50 PM Ignore bonzoonfmb Report Abuse I have rarely seen someone illegally pass a school bus and I don't think there is any need for more surveillance cameras.
Chris46 Champion Author Dayton Posts:23,649 Points:2,079,390 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Aug 19, 2012 11:39:53 PM Ignore Chris46 Report Abuse What about when school buses speed? Or run a red light? huh? what then??
LCSTEELERBOB Champion Author Gary Posts:2,961 Points:720,030 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Aug 19, 2012 11:37:26 PM Ignore LCSTEELERBOB Report Abuse good idea
gumbyrex Champion Author Fresno Posts:3,286 Points:756,365 Joined:Mar 2011	Message Posted: Aug 19, 2012 11:35:13 PM Ignore gumbyrex Report Abuse I'm all for it. I've seen too many cars ignoring the stop sign or blinking lights. Too many drivers in too big of a rush, putting kids in danger. Here in the central valley of California, it's my personal opinion many of those drivers who break the law are illegal residents who don't have a valid drivers license and consequently don't know the driving laws. The remaining law breakers are licensed drivers who also don't know the school bus laws or are in such a rush they ignore the laws.
bradley1969 Champion Author Wisconsin Posts:1,518 Points:328,080 Joined:Mar 2012	Message Posted: Aug 19, 2012 11:34:25 PM Ignore bradley1969 Report Abuse DUH!!!! ABOUT TIME!!!!!
TFowler513 Champion Author Memphis Posts:3,824 Points:1,411,485 Joined:Mar 2008	Message Posted: Aug 19, 2012 11:34:08 PM Ignore TFowler513 Report Abuse It's all about the safety of the kids. Those who don't stop need to be put under the jail!!!
Christiana1313 Rookie Author Tampa Posts:25 Points:56,995 Joined:Feb 2012	Message Posted: Aug 19, 2012 11:30:13 PM Ignore Christiana1313 Report Abuse It's about time. When I was 7, I was walking off the bus and a car did not stop on the exiting side. Just one more step and I would not be here. My mom and dad witnessed it. The bus driver yelled stop before I took that step. She saved me. Cops were called.
farn1958 All-Star Author Twin Cities Posts:886 Points:183,385 Joined:Feb 2011	Message Posted: Aug 19, 2012 11:29:53 PM Ignore farn1958 Report Abuse sounds like a very good idea.